Comments on: Selling Out or Making a Sell (Part 2) by Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/ Black Books, Authors, Book Reviews, Events & More Thu, 02 Feb 2012 03:49:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Roslyn Holcomb http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12182 Roslyn Holcomb Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:27:12 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12182 Thanks Dyanne, it comes out February 9th, next Tuesday. I absolutely adore that cover, I've put it up everywhere because I think it's so pretty. Some people are doing very well with e-pubs. It's all in the backlist, because if someone likes your current release they'll often go back and buy everything you've got. And with e-books it's point and shoot easy. Fabulous for impulse buys. http://roslynholcomb.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/given-cover-squee/ Thanks Dyanne, it comes out February 9th, next Tuesday. I absolutely adore that cover, I’ve put it up everywhere because I think it’s so pretty.

Some people are doing very well with e-pubs. It’s all in the backlist, because if someone likes your current release they’ll often go back and buy everything you’ve got. And with e-books it’s point and shoot easy. Fabulous for impulse buys.

http://roslynholcomb.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/given-cover-squee/

]]> By: Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12181 Dyanne Davis Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:29:53 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12181 Roz, Did I forget to mention how much I love your new cover for Given with Lisa G as your co-author. It comes out this month right? Theresa Stevens, managing editor of Red Sage, told me that writers (some) are making six figure incomes with ebooks. Dyanne Roz,

Did I forget to mention how much I love your new cover for Given with Lisa G as your co-author. It comes out this month right?

Theresa Stevens, managing editor of Red Sage, told me that writers (some) are making six figure incomes with ebooks.

Dyanne

]]> By: Roslyn Holcomb http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12174 Roslyn Holcomb Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:27:44 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12174 Exactly Dyanne, I love e-publishing because of the higher royalty rate and the monthly royalty check. I probably won't get rich, but I can certainly keep my son in shoes and Pokemon cards. The industry is changing, rapidly. There are opportunities available to us that even five years ago were unthinkable. If we're smart, savvy and willing to work our butts off (and read the fine print) we can all get in where we fit in. Exactly Dyanne, I love e-publishing because of the higher royalty rate and the monthly royalty check. I probably won’t get rich, but I can certainly keep my son in shoes and Pokemon cards. The industry is changing, rapidly. There are opportunities available to us that even five years ago were unthinkable. If we’re smart, savvy and willing to work our butts off (and read the fine print) we can all get in where we fit in.

]]> By: Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12163 Dyanne Davis Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:58:38 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12163 Roz, Other writers have also done the same thing and had mainstream publishers come calling when their book had hit a niche. Let's go back to epublishing for a moment. I remember the bru ha ha over this. authors using this method and publishers who are publishing in this manner are making money. A lot of writers are making a living wage from this medium. Now a lot of mainstream publishers have jumped on this bandwagon also. Money. Dyanne Roz,

Other writers have also done the same thing and had mainstream publishers come calling when their book had hit a niche.

Let’s go back to epublishing for a moment. I remember the bru ha ha over this. authors using this method and publishers who are publishing in this manner are making money. A lot of writers are making a living wage from this medium. Now a lot of mainstream publishers have jumped on this bandwagon also. Money.

Dyanne

]]> By: Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12162 Dyanne Davis Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:54:14 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12162 Thank you Roz, You've just taken away my need to tell the other side of the story, RWA's reason for objecting to this. You've done a good job of it. Dyanne Thank you Roz,

You’ve just taken away my need to tell the other side of the story, RWA’s reason for objecting to this. You’ve done a good job of it.

Dyanne

]]> By: Roslyn Holcomb http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12160 Roslyn Holcomb Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:55:27 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12160 Also, I don't think there's as much stigma attached to self-publishing in the black community primarily because blacks were shut out of publishing for so long there really was no other choice. We've all heard stories about the writers who sold books out of the trunk of their car until they had a bestseller on their hands. Also, I don’t think there’s as much stigma attached to self-publishing in the black community primarily because blacks were shut out of publishing for so long there really was no other choice. We’ve all heard stories about the writers who sold books out of the trunk of their car until they had a bestseller on their hands.

]]> By: Roslyn Holcomb http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12158 Roslyn Holcomb Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:47:23 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12158 I think the decision as to what means you employ to publication is your business. I have no problem with Harlequin starting up a vanity press, if you're willing to pay to be published more power to you. I think it's crazy to pay to play and then have them pay YOU royalties, but again, your money. Presumably we're all grown here. However, I do have beef with the notion of monetizing the slush pile which is what they (and as I understand it now several Christian publishers) are doing. The notion that they will refer people that they've rejected to their vanity press is problematic. Especially when they use the lure that they will occasionally choose writers from their vanity press to publish in their regular press. Think about it for a moment, how long do you think it would be before the opportunity to be published with Harlequin is limited to those who've "paid to play" through their vanity press? And being that publishing is the ultimate "monkey see/monkey do" business it wouldn't be long before everyone else followed suit. So, rather than expanding publishing opportunities which happens under a self-publishing model, what Harlequin is doing will ultimately narrow it to those willing (or able) to fork over $600 - $1500. This pay to play model is dangerous. I don't think this has anything to do with the viability or even the quality of self-publishing, especially since it's NOT self-publishing. I think the decision as to what means you employ to publication is your business. I have no problem with Harlequin starting up a vanity press, if you’re willing to pay to be published more power to you. I think it’s crazy to pay to play and then have them pay YOU royalties, but again, your money. Presumably we’re all grown here.

However, I do have beef with the notion of monetizing the slush pile which is what they (and as I understand it now several Christian publishers) are doing. The notion that they will refer people that they’ve rejected to their vanity press is problematic. Especially when they use the lure that they will occasionally choose writers from their vanity press to publish in their regular press. Think about it for a moment, how long do you think it would be before the opportunity to be published with Harlequin is limited to those who’ve “paid to play” through their vanity press? And being that publishing is the ultimate “monkey see/monkey do” business it wouldn’t be long before everyone else followed suit.

So, rather than expanding publishing opportunities which happens under a self-publishing model, what Harlequin is doing will ultimately narrow it to those willing (or able) to fork over $600 – $1500. This pay to play model is dangerous. I don’t think this has anything to do with the viability or even the quality of self-publishing, especially since it’s NOT self-publishing.

]]> By: Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12037 Dyanne Davis Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:14:28 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12037 Minnie, You make some very valid points indeed. But as we've talked about this I was in bed early this morning and realized that at some point like it or not I will have to do an article on the valid reasons RWA was against Harlequin's actions. Believe it or not the reasons were good. Still trying to be diplomatic and not get sued, I will say this. My rant, even though I brought up the name, was never against RWA. Their reasons, I fully understood. My rant began because of individuals making remarks that to me meant they thought that writers who published by any means other than traditional were flawed, not as good. So, to be responsible I will have to present the other side. Just give me a little time to write it. I'll need some time away from this in order to be able to do it without being snippy. Minnie, your paragraph below I agree with wholeheartedly. Dyanne We cannot look too far into the future of publishing, it’s moving too fast. I believe the future is now and proceed with this in mind when choosing my avenue. Our choices are our business. There’s an old Chinese proverb and I paraphrase, you buy your ticket and take your chances. Minnie,

You make some very valid points indeed. But as we’ve talked about this I was in bed early this morning and realized that at some point like it or not I will have to do an article on the valid reasons RWA was against Harlequin’s actions. Believe it or not the reasons were good.

Still trying to be diplomatic and not get sued, I will say this. My rant, even though I brought up the name, was never against RWA. Their reasons, I fully understood. My rant began because of individuals making remarks that to me meant they thought that writers who published by any means other than traditional were flawed, not as good. So, to be responsible I will have to present the other side. Just give me a little time to write it. I’ll need some time away from this in order to be able to do it without being snippy.

Minnie, your paragraph below I agree with wholeheartedly.

Dyanne

We cannot look too far into the future of publishing, it’s moving too fast. I
believe the future is now and proceed with this in mind when choosing my avenue.
Our choices are our business. There’s an old Chinese proverb and I paraphrase,
you buy your ticket and take your chances.

]]> By: Minnie Estelle Miller http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12034 Minnie Estelle Miller Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:25:42 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12034 Dyanne Davis, thank you for bringing this issue to all of us. Tee C, thank you for moderating. I knew early on that I am not the type of person to wait years for recognition because of my persona and age. I began writing seriously at age 59 or 60. I reached out briefly to agents with a few queries and received automated rejections like many of you. Dyanne selected the title, Selling Out or Making a Sell, because of “the flood of email received” when the Harlequin/vanity publisher controversy hit the Internet. Then she wakes you up with “Why should the question ever be asked.” Bang on Dyanne! And to Donna Hill, Bravo! For me, the subject is moot. It’s my business how and why I select the avenue to publishing. I write mainstream fiction, paranormal and vampire books, have never submitted to Harlequin or a vanity press. Writers alerted me years ago about vanity press’s contract, knew it didn’t fit my program. Time and money dictates my choice. Some believe self-published work is inferior. I’ve self-published 2 books, have 3 more in the que, and darn near went back to school to learn the business end. I’ve paid good money for professional edits. Have investigated and learned that many professionals either work for publishing houses or have in the past. These are the editors I willingly pay to edit my work. I’ll say it again; you cannot edit your work good enough to take it to a printer. Printers don’t edit. They take your work as camera-ready. What you give them is what you get back. Today, my funds are limited—I’m retired and live on Social Security checks. When previously self-publishing I did not recoup my expenses, wrote it off as a loss and kept writing. Yet, I still sell my last published book (2006) in small quantities. They are debt-free and in my closet. Now, I will e-Publish, use the e-Book format, and will check out the CD format. The Internet has changed lives. The old is gone and the new is in. We have gone global. Interracial love (interracial romance) has been in existence for years, just under cover. So has same-sex love, borderline sex—all of which has been researched and proved to be real—love between the blind and the deaf. Need I go further? Oh, I can’t for get Vampire Lucien and Christina’s love story. *A shameless hint* Love is love. Our choices do not change love. I think the easiest way to look at the book market and how you fit in is to be clear that publishing is a business—they expect a return on their money—and if they can change your story to fit their agenda, they will. If you don’t like it, move on. We cannot look too far into the future of publishing, it’s moving too fast. I believe the future is now and proceed with this in mind when choosing my avenue. Our choices are our business. There’s an old Chinese proverb and I paraphrase, you buy your ticket and take your chances. Look for this article on: http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/ Dyanne Davis, thank you for bringing this issue to all of us. Tee C, thank you for moderating.

I knew early on that I am not the type of person to wait years for recognition because of my persona and age. I began writing seriously at age 59 or 60. I reached out briefly to agents with a few queries and received automated rejections like many of you.

Dyanne selected the title, Selling Out or Making a Sell, because of “the flood of email received” when the Harlequin/vanity publisher controversy hit the Internet. Then she wakes you up with “Why should the question ever be asked.” Bang on Dyanne! And to Donna Hill, Bravo!

For me, the subject is moot.

It’s my business how and why I select the avenue to publishing. I write mainstream fiction, paranormal and vampire books, have never submitted to Harlequin or a vanity press. Writers alerted me years ago about vanity press’s contract, knew it didn’t fit my program. Time and money dictates my choice. Some believe self-published work is inferior. I’ve self-published 2 books, have 3 more in the que, and darn near went back to school to learn the business end. I’ve paid good money for professional edits. Have investigated and learned that many professionals either work for publishing houses or have in the past. These are the editors I willingly pay to edit my work. I’ll say it again; you cannot edit your work good enough to take it to a printer. Printers don’t edit. They take your work as camera-ready. What you give them is what you get back.

Today, my funds are limited—I’m retired and live on Social Security checks. When previously self-publishing I did not recoup my expenses, wrote it off as a loss and kept writing. Yet, I still sell my last published book (2006) in small quantities. They are debt-free and in my closet. Now, I will e-Publish, use the e-Book format, and will check out the CD format.

The Internet has changed lives. The old is gone and the new is in. We have gone global. Interracial love (interracial romance) has been in existence for years, just under cover. So has same-sex love, borderline sex—all of which has been researched and proved to be real—love between the blind and the deaf. Need I go further? Oh, I can’t for get Vampire Lucien and Christina’s love story. *A shameless hint* Love is love. Our choices do not change love.

I think the easiest way to look at the book market and how you fit in is to be clear that publishing is a business—they expect a return on their money—and if they can change your story to fit their agenda, they will. If you don’t like it, move on.

We cannot look too far into the future of publishing, it’s moving too fast. I believe the future is now and proceed with this in mind when choosing my avenue. Our choices are our business. There’s an old Chinese proverb and I paraphrase, you buy your ticket and take your chances.

Look for this article on: http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/

]]> By: Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12032 Dyanne Davis Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:43:19 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12032 Kathy, I am not even going to tell you not to feel bad about the rejections because let's be real they hurt. Just give yourself a time limit to feel bad about it. Rejections don't mean your story is bad. that particular person didn't connect with it. Seriously, I have readers email me and tell me how much they loved some book that I wrote and the same number will blog somewhere how much they hated it. I look at all of this stuff as the individual opinions. If you're off on Tues come to the book chat at the Borders in town. Then we can set a time to brainstorm, or do lunch. Don't give up okay. You have a great voice and I'm not the only person to tell you that. Give me a call and we'll talk Dyanne Kathy,

I am not even going to tell you not to feel bad about the rejections because let’s be real they hurt. Just give yourself a time limit to feel bad about it. Rejections don’t mean your story is bad. that particular person didn’t connect with it.

Seriously, I have readers email me and tell me how much they loved some book that I wrote and the same number will blog somewhere how much they hated it. I look at all of this stuff as the individual opinions.

If you’re off on Tues come to the book chat at the Borders in town. Then we can set a time to brainstorm, or do lunch. Don’t give up okay. You have a great voice and I’m not the only person to tell you that. Give me a call and we’ll talk

Dyanne

]]> By: Kathy Thigpen http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12031 Kathy Thigpen Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:14:24 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12031 Hi Dyanne, Here I am again, learning from you. Great musings. As the rejections letters pour in for my first novel I was just this week considering this question. What if I don't find that wise, good and smart agent and/or publisher that loves my work, SOON! Then what concessions am I willing to make to get a contract. I'm ready to share my work with the world. Am I willing to self publish? If I self publish I will of course be looked down upon by many but I would get a great deal of satisfaction out of having a tangible product in my hands. And the hands of my family and a few great friends. Hopefully maybe others? This is so much more complicated than just writing... Hi Dyanne,
Here I am again, learning from you. Great musings.

As the rejections letters pour in for my first novel I was just this week considering this question. What if I don’t find that wise, good and smart agent and/or publisher that loves my work, SOON! Then what concessions am I willing to make to get a contract.

I’m ready to share my work with the world. Am I willing to self publish? If I self publish I will of course be looked down upon by many but I would get a great deal of satisfaction out of having a tangible product in my hands. And the hands of my family and a few great friends. Hopefully maybe others?

This is so much more complicated than just writing…

]]> By: Yasmine http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12029 Yasmine Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:06:00 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12029 If I get kicked out of RWA I can find something else to spend my yearly dues on...shoes, makeup, writing supplies, etc. If I get kicked out of RWA I can find something else to spend my yearly dues on…shoes, makeup, writing supplies, etc.

]]> By: Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12027 Dyanne Davis Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:57:40 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12027 Brenda, Would you email me please? I have been trying for an hour to find your email address in my records. Thank you Dyanne Brenda,

Would you email me please? I have been trying for an hour to find your email address in my records. Thank you

Dyanne

]]> By: Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12025 Dyanne Davis Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:05:18 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12025 Good morning Cynthia, You've touched on a very good point. Marketability. For mainstream publishing there has to be a niche for what you've written. It has to fit in a predefined mold. You have to know when you submit your work if it fits that mold. For instance, I wrote a triology that deals in part with past lives and psychics. The first book of the triology was the book that got me my agent. However she hasn't been able to sell that first book becasue...this is what is coming back. No one is reading about psychics which translates into they're not ready to buy books about psychics. And I keep reading books that have psychics in it so I'm not getting it. I recently interviewed Jayne Ann Krentz for my Author's spotlight on my website. The first in her psychic series was recently released a few days ago. I'm waiting to see ow it does and hoping that the interest in psychics will soar. But getting back to the fitting the mold and sometimes having something that doesn't. Each book in my trilogy is a bit different, and I know it's going to be hard to place. I wrote where the muse led me. In between writing the trilogy though I deliberately wrote the kinds of books that I knew were marketable. Besides, I had contracts I had to honor. On the editing part, I completely agree with you. ALL houses miss something. Sidney Rickman, the editor for all of my books but one, and the editor of the two that I am going to do myself also does freelance editing. I can't give you a price. But I can tell you she's super fantastic. She's going to give it to you straight so if anyone is interested in contacting her just email me. She doesn't do erotica and she really doesn't like doing vampires. Other than that I recommend her most highly. Just remember that she still works for Genesis Press and edits freelance when she has the time. Keep going Cynthia, more power to you!! Dyanne Good morning Cynthia,

You’ve touched on a very good point. Marketability. For mainstream publishing there has to be a niche for what you’ve written. It has to fit in a predefined mold. You have to know when you submit your work if it fits that mold.

For instance, I wrote a triology that deals in part with past lives and psychics. The first book of the triology was the book that got me my agent. However she hasn’t been able to sell that first book becasue…this is what is coming back. No one is reading about psychics which translates into they’re not ready to buy books about psychics. And I keep reading books that have psychics in it so I’m not getting it.

I recently interviewed Jayne Ann Krentz for my Author’s spotlight on my website. The first in her psychic series was recently released a few days ago. I’m waiting to see ow it does and hoping that the interest in psychics will soar.

But getting back to the fitting the mold and sometimes having something that doesn’t. Each book in my trilogy is a bit different, and I know it’s going to be hard to place. I wrote where the muse led me. In between writing the trilogy though I deliberately wrote the kinds of books that I knew were marketable. Besides, I had contracts I had to honor.

On the editing part, I completely agree with you. ALL houses miss something. Sidney Rickman, the editor for all of my books but one, and the editor of the two that I am going to do myself also does freelance editing. I can’t give you a price. But I can tell you she’s super fantastic. She’s going to give it to you straight so if anyone is interested in contacting her just email me. She doesn’t do erotica and she really doesn’t like doing vampires. Other than that I recommend her most highly. Just remember that she still works for Genesis Press and edits freelance when she has the time. Keep going Cynthia, more power to you!!

Dyanne

]]> By: Cynthia Toliver http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12024 Cynthia Toliver Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:02:18 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12024 As a self-published author, I found the article enlightening. Although Harlequin's actions appear disingenuos, I believe the current system leaves a lot of good writing out in the cold. I chose to self publish after hitting some roadblocks in traditional publication. The question wasn't the quality of my work, but rather whether my work was marketable. I understand ultimately that this is a business. Artistically however, I'm a writer with a story to tell, and I wanted that story in the hands of readers. I enjoy the freedom of self-publication. I' ve had excellent reviews and I have a quality product. Meanwhile I've seen poor editing even from major publishers. Regardless of the means to publication, the heart of a book, the good or the bad is the content between the front and back covers - the writing. As a self-published author, I found the article enlightening. Although Harlequin’s actions appear disingenuos, I believe the current system leaves a lot of good writing out in the cold. I chose to self publish after hitting some roadblocks in traditional publication. The question wasn’t the quality of my work, but rather whether my work was marketable. I understand ultimately that this is a business. Artistically however, I’m a writer with a story to tell, and I wanted that story in the hands of readers. I enjoy the freedom of self-publication. I’ ve had excellent reviews and I have a quality product. Meanwhile I’ve seen poor editing even from major publishers. Regardless of the means to publication, the heart of a book, the good or the bad is the content between the front and back covers – the writing.

]]> By: Jaime L. Lincoln http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12020 Jaime L. Lincoln Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:17:39 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12020 :) :)

]]> By: Jaime L. Lincoln http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12019 Jaime L. Lincoln Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:16:40 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12019 LOL...I try to do the same, too!!!! LOL…I try to do the same, too!!!!

]]> By: Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12018 Dyanne Davis Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:06:06 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12018 Cilla, Oh my God!! Don't tell me that I now have to actually become active on facebook. Heck, I'll never make a sale. I truly don't get the fascination with facebook. You know something? I'm thinking this should be a really great time for young writers with lots of patience and time for things like facebook, twitter and all the others. LOL. Dyanne Cilla,

Oh my God!! Don’t tell me that I now have to actually become active on facebook. Heck, I’ll never make a sale. I truly don’t get the fascination with facebook. You know something? I’m thinking this should be a really great time for young writers with lots of patience and time for things like facebook, twitter and all the others. LOL.

Dyanne

]]> By: Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12017 Dyanne Davis Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:59:19 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12017 Yasmine, Thank you for the back up. I hope neither of us gets kicked out of RWA. LOL. They did start my rant..........okay, chill Dyanne. Let it go. I'm good now Yas. Dyanne Yasmine,

Thank you for the back up. I hope neither of us gets kicked out of RWA. LOL. They did start my rant……….okay, chill Dyanne. Let it go. I’m good now Yas.

Dyanne

]]> By: Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12016 Dyanne Davis Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:56:29 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12016 A.M., Well said. I thank all of you for putting up with my ranting and and for giving me your opinions. Since you all are of the same mind as I am, that makes me a happy camper. LOL. Dyanne A.M.,

Well said. I thank all of you for putting up with my ranting and and for giving me your opinions. Since you all are of the same mind as I am, that makes me a happy camper. LOL.

Dyanne

]]> By: Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12015 Dyanne Davis Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:54:12 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12015 LOL. Jaime, it's probably nothing more dangerous than a woman on a rant. You're right, writers should have the final say. I'm going to let you know very soon how having the final say works out. Dyanne LOL. Jaime, it’s probably nothing more dangerous than a woman on a rant. You’re right, writers should have the final say. I’m going to let you know very soon how having the final say works out.

Dyanne

]]> By: Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12014 Dyanne Davis Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:52:04 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12014 Angelia, I should have asked you in the first place but thought you were the Angelia that's a member of my yahoo group. My apologies. Please send me your address, davisdyanne@aol.com and I will make it up to me. If you do it today it will go out tomorrow since i have to make a visit to the post office anyway. By the way, those multicolored apples sound VERY good. Dyanne Angelia,

I should have asked you in the first place but thought you were the Angelia that’s a member of my yahoo group. My apologies. Please send me your address, davisdyanne@aol.com and I will make it up to me. If you do it today it will go out tomorrow since i have to make a visit to the post office anyway.

By the way, those multicolored apples sound VERY good.

Dyanne

]]> By: Dyanne Davis http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12013 Dyanne Davis Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:47:07 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12013 Jaime I am definitely one of those that believe in learning from the lessons of others. I don't have to stick my fingers in the fire when I'm told the fire will burn me. LOL. Dyanne Jaime

I am definitely one of those that believe in learning from the lessons of others. I don’t have to stick my fingers in the fire when I’m told the fire will burn me. LOL.

Dyanne

]]> By: 'cilla http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12012 'cilla Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:56:45 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12012 Dyanne... I love this. Agreeing with everyone - you have to control your destiny and your purse strings. The publishing industry has changed so much and so quickly. With the introduction of Kindles and eBooks, small book stores are going out of business and large chains are reducing a slashing prices on books. Authors are going to FB and other mediums to sell books... It's all a gamble - I say, be true to yourself .. Great article :-) Dyanne… I love this. Agreeing with everyone – you have to control your destiny and your purse strings. The publishing industry has changed so much and so quickly. With the introduction of Kindles and eBooks, small book stores are going out of business and large chains are reducing a slashing prices on books. Authors are going to FB and other mediums to sell books… It’s all a gamble – I say, be true to yourself ..

Great article :-)

]]> By: Jaime L. Lincoln http://www.rawsistaz.com/articles-workshops/selling-out-or-making-a-sell-by-dyanne-davis-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-12011 Jaime L. Lincoln Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:43:30 +0000 http://www.rawsistaz.com/?p=3055#comment-12011 Ms. Dyanne, I did notice. Like you I was on a rant, when that happens by thoughts get carried away. No I didn't think you were blaming the industry. I'm not trying to either, as you stated this is a business...deals and money are made. It's just the author should be able to choose. Ms. Dyanne,

I did notice. Like you I was on a rant, when that happens by thoughts get carried away. No I didn’t think you were blaming the industry. I’m not trying to either, as you stated this is a business…deals and money are made. It’s just the author should be able to choose.

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